It is very simple, nothing is required. And therefore I say, except your Selfless Self nothing is there. Be spiritually strong, have courage, “Yes, I can do it!”. We are having a lack of courage. You are no more a beggar, you are a billionaire! It’s fact. We are begging to all “Oh, do something for me, do something for me”, why?
I am telling this story – you might have read this story somewhere. Some boy is begging on the street, you know. And somebody like you comes across him and says “Oh, why are you begging? Your parents left a lot of money for you.” – “Oh, you are making fun of me!” – “It is fact!”, you are taking him to the bank, showing him “You’ve got a lot of money!”. After knowing “I am a multimillionaire” you’ll not beg on the street, correct? Same thing has happened in our case. We are begging “Oh god bless me, do something for me, do something for me”, you’re bowing down everywhere, here and there. But Master says “Why are you bowing down anywhere? You bow down to you”. You are Master of Masters. You are Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God. After having Conviction, you’ll not bow down to anybody. Not that you’re not respecting everybody, but you’ll know. Just like that boy, after knowing the Reality, you’ll not beg on the street. And therefore I am insisting not to underestimate yourself. You have got tremendous power.
This is all free of charge knowledge. Therefore we are having a lineage discipline not to demand anything from any disciple or devotees. It is your knowledge, we are not favouring you. It is fact, I am placing before you fact. And for which, I am repeating: you are to undergo strictly meditation, it is the only source. Beyond that nothing is there. And this human body is an opportunity for everybody. Do your duties, there are no restrictions. Not to sit lazy or idle in the name of spirituality. Do your job, do your duties, remain with the family members, perform your responsibilities. But at the same time you must have the Conviction that ‘I am not the body at all, I was not the body at all’.
So all body-based concepts are supposed to be dissolved totally. And when will they be dissolved? After having Spontaneous Conviction. To have the Spontaneous Conviction ‘I am Brahman’, you have to undergo strictly meditation. There is not any other source. Until you’ve got Conviction, until that time, you are to undergo the discipline of meditation. And I am telling you, meditation is also illusion, but at the advanced stage. Because we forgot our identity, through meditation we are inviting the attention of the Meditator ‘you are Brahman, you are Brahman’. It is not difficult at all, not impossible also. Your total involvement is required, strong will is required. It is fact, even if you think intellectually, it is fact.
Q: I have no Naam Mantra, so what I do, I read the book. I do this, ‘I am Brahman, Brahman I am’.
Maharaj: Yes, yes, that’s enough. Until you get conviction you have to undergo the discipline of meditation that ‘I am Brahman, Brahman I am’.
Q: I know it’s there.
Maharaj: Yes, you have to forget your body-identity. The purpose of the mantra ‘I am Brahman’ is just to forget the body-identity.
Q: And the word ‘bija’, ‘b-i-j-a’ in the bhajans? ‘Bija Mantra’, it says, what does that mean? Is that the same as Naam Mantra?
Maharaj: Naam Mantra is words, I repeatedly told you. ‘Aham Brahmasmi’, ‘Sivoham’, ‘I am Brahman’, these are the words through which you are indicating yourself, concentrating yourself, hammering yourself, because you forgot your identity.
Q: I want that to …
Maharaj: See, everything is within you.
Q3: …run continuously.
Maharaj: Ah, you have to recite that. This body is called woman, you are female, your parents told you this body is female and you accepted it, correct? You’re acting as a female. So, Master says ‘You are Brahman’, and you’re not accepting that. It’s open Truth. Male or female is not your identity at all, it is given to the body-form. The holder of the body-form is called Brahamn, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master, that you are.
Not to take literal meaning of what is mentioned in the books. So many times it happens: “Oh, Ramana Maharshi says like this, this Master says like this”. We’re not here to analyze the statements of the various Masters. What they convey, that is most important. What did they convey?: Except your Selfless Self, there is no God, no Brahman, no Atman, no Paramatman.
Q: So, for the past eight years I’ve read so much, I’ve done so many practices that people have shown me and things like that, and I just feel more confused and more lost than ever before, and I’m just tired of it and I need it all to stop. And I understand it intellectually, a lot of it, but there’s no conviction at all. It still seems like a fantasy and a good idea. I just don’t know what to do anymore to get…
Maharaj: You must accept this, that you are not the body at all. It is fact, open fact, forget about spirituality for a time. You are knowing intellectually that this body is not your identity at all. You were a small child, you have become a young man, after you will become an old man, and after, willingly or unwillingly, you will have to leave this body. That means the body is not your identity, open fact. Forget about spirituality, these are intellectual things. The concept ‘I am somebody else’ is supposed to dissolve. The concept ‘I am somebody else’ is supposed to be dissolved. There is no karma, no dharma, no destiny, nothing is there. You are totally unborn, it is fact! So many concepts are there after reading so many books. We are depending upon bookish knowledge, literal knowledge. Last birth, future birth, who’s birth? Is the sky taking any birth? Is the sky having any destiny? You’re Spontaneous, Invisible Presence is beyond that.
What is the purpose of meditation? Through meditation you are identifying yourself in a real sense. Through meditation you are inviting the attention of the Invisible Meditator within you that you are Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God. Through meditation you are hammering yourself all the time. It’s open fact: we start as a small child, then grow up to a young man, then an old man. These are the stages of the body.
Who is acting with the body? Who is watching the dream?
It is a fact that the entire world is projected out of your Presence. Your Presence is Invisible Presence, Anonymous Presence, Unidentified Presence. And therefore, first thing I’ll tell you is not to measure yourself in body-form. When you measure yourself in body-form you’re underestimating your Selfless Self.
Literal knowledge will not help you, bookish knowledge will not help you. Be practical. You’ve got a lot of knowledge. Will that knowledge help you at the time of leaving the body? No. So how are you prior to beingness and after leaving the body? Ask the question. It is beyond imagination. It is called Ultimate Truth, Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master – that you are.
We understand this intellectually: “Yes I am Brahman, Atman, Paramatman”, but are not accepting it in Reality, practical Reality. What is practical? So all concepts are supposed to be dissolved, all concepts related to body-knowledge. It is a very simple thing, for which your strong involvement is most important. I was not the body, I’m not the body, I’m not going to remain the body. The body was not my identity, the body is not going to remain my identity at all, it’s open fact.
Maharaj: The entire world is projected out of your Presence, it’s open fact. If there is no Presence for one moment, what is the value of this body? If there is no Presence in this body, what is the value of this body? Body is having importance because of your Presence. And therefore all the while I am inviting the attention of the Invisible Listener within you that you are Ultimate Truth, it’s fact. So how this knowledge is to be absorbed within you, that is most important. For which, the only media is meditation. Only talking about spiritual knowledge is meaningless. Through meditation you are inviting the attention of the Invisible Meditator within you that you are Ultimate Truth, you are hammering all the time: ‘Aham Brahmasmi’, ‘I am Brahman, I am Brahman’. Just like this body is accepted as a man. If anyone says you are a woman, you are slapping them. So likewise, the holder of this body is called Brahman, Atman, Paramatman. It is fact, but we are not accepting that fact. Therefore mind, ego, intellect are pricking you from backside.
So directly or indirectly we are depending upon this body-knowledge. We say “Oh, I am Brahman, I am Brahman”, it is not enough. Stand on your own feet, not to depend upon anybody else. Your Spontaneous, Invisible Presence has great value. All ‘Brahman’, ‘Atman’, ‘Paramatman’, ‘Master’ are the names given to your Spontaneous Invisible Presence. Try to identify the Unidentified Identity within you. Try to identify the Unidentified, Invisible Identity within you.
Not to underestimate. You do all your activities, no restrictions. You’ve got family responsibilities, do your responsibilities. As if you’re acting in some drama, in some pictures. We’ve got so many relations: we are uncle, we are father, we are brother, so many relations. One person having so many relations.
So all needs, requirements came along with the body only. Spiritual knowledge is required because we forgot our identity. Where was spiritual knowledge prior to beingness? After leaving the body, spiritual knowledge will help you? No.
Maharaj: See, at the initial stage you have to say “I am Brahman, Brahman I am”, because by that you are hammering your Selfless Self. To forget body-identity, to dissolve all concepts, body related concepts, you have to recite this mantra “Aham Brahmasmi”, ”I am Brahman”, like that. These are the words, I’m telling you, it is language. Language is just to understand, but who has given language? We have given the name of God, donkey means something else. We have given the meaning. Through this language you are trying to identify oneself in a real sense. It is open fact! It is not going to remain. Open fact. Prior to a hundred years how were you? You say “I don’t know”. If anybody ask you the question: “How are you prior to a hundred years?”, you say “I don’t know”, “After leaving the body?” “I don’t know”. ‘I don’t know’ means I am not in any form. In a negative answer there is a positive concept. I am telling everybody, if you are alone in your house and somebody knocks on the door, “is anybody there?”, you say “nobody’s there”. The person who says “nobody’s there”, is there. Similarly, ‘I don’t know’ means I am not in any form, I am formless. It’s fact. But Conviction is required, Spontaneous Conviction is required.
And therefore I am saying meditation means anti-virus software. It is cleaning. And you can do it, nothing is required, no expenses, it is free of charge. Free of charge. In our lineage it is the discipline not to demand anything from devotees, strictly. No expense is required. This is your knowledge! Not the knowledge of Brahman, Atman, Parmatman, God. These are the names that are given to Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, to identify your Ultimate Truth. You’ve got supernatural power! You’ve got supernatural power that is unknown to you. Your inner Master is very strong. These are also concepts, internal Master, external Master. The Invisible Listener within you is Internal Master, it is Brahman, Paramatman, but you are neglecting it.
The Invisible Presence within you is Final Truth. It has a strong power, strong energy. And therefore not to measure oneself in body form, that is most important. Because you are shapeless, there’s no body. Though you’re holding the body, there should be Spontaneous Conviction: “I am not the body, I am not going to remain the body”. So mind, ego, intellect came along with the body and dissolve along with the body. All concepts, so many concepts are there. All needs, all requirements came along with the body. Concepts like ‘God’: to say ‘God’ your Presence is required. To say ‘Master’ your Presence is required. You are Master of your own! But because of long association with the body you forgot your identity. And to identify yourself in a real sense, meditation is most important.
Everybody’s asking regarding the Naam Mantra, Mantra – these are the words! There are so many words. ‘Aham Brahmasmi’ is a word, ‘I am Brahman’ is a word, ‘Soham’ is a word. This is the media, it is an indication. Through meditation you are inviting the attention of the Invisible Meditator that you are Brahman. You’ll forget your body-identity.
I’m not saying neglect your body identity. There aren’t any conditions or any restrictions. Since you’re holding the body you can take care of the body. But it is open fact that the body is not your identity, the body was not your identity, the body is not going to remain your identity. So literal knowledge, bookish knowledge will not help you. You might have visited so many Masters, read so many books. Just ask the question to your Selfless Self: “Will all this knowledge be helpful at the time of leaving the body? Whether after reading so many books do I have complete peacefulness? I’m happy? I’m tension free? Fearless?” Ask the question to yourself. Directly or indirectly we are having the subtle ego: “I am somebody else”. That ‘somebody else’ is supposed to be dissolved totally. It is not impossible, it is not difficult at all. You can do it, you have tremendous power, you have tremendous energy. We are neglecting that. You pray “Oh God bless me, Oh God bless me”. Where is God? If your Presence is not there who will talk about the God? It’s a simple thing. To say ‘God’ your Presence is required. If your Presence is not there who will talk about God? Where are the Masters? You approach your own Master! – through which you say ‘I’. To say ‘I’ your Presence is required. I’m inviting the attention of the Invisible Presence within you that you are Ultimate Truth. It’s a very simple thing. But, it needs some involvement. Everybody knows you are Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master. But it should be absorbed, “Yes, so that I!”. Just like this body is called man, this is called female, man or woman, when you are neither man nor woman, you are Brahman. It’s fact. It is very easy to understand but a little bit difficult to absorb because we’re lacking involvement, for which nothing is required.
What is the purpose of the human life? Everybody wants happiness, peacefulness, tension-free life, fearless life. The moment you identify yourself in a real sense, spontaneous peacefulness will be there. Who wants peacefulness? Prior to beingness do you know what is peacefulness? Any happiness? The moment the Spirit clicked with the body we say “I want everything”. We want happiness, peacefulness, tension-free life, fearless life.
Everyone wants to know about death. What is death? What is birth? There’s no birth, no death. Birth and death are connected with the body only, and as you know, you are unborn. It’s a fact! You may not believe, but you are unborn. Because we are measuring ourselves in body-form therefore we are saying “I am born” and counting age, “I am somebody else”. We’ve got lots of attachment, related to the body. Mind you, I’m not saying to neglect your body-knowledge, just to identify it. Except your Selfless Self there is no God, no Brahman, no Atman, no Paramatman, no Master. You are Master, you are Brahman, you are Paramatman. It’s a fact. For which, at the initial stage, you are to undergo the discipline of meditation until you have Spontaneous Conviction. Why is medication required? To develop Spontaneous Conviction. “This body is called man, I am somebody else, my name is something-something given to me”, and I have accepted it. If a thousand people ask “Oh, John” you say “Oh, I am John”.
Maharaj: So you have a good background. Everybody is having spiritual knowledge. Everybody knows ‘Atman’, ‘Paramatman’. But practical knowledge is most important. Because what happens? We’ve accepted the body as our identity. Prior to beingness there was no body, no shape. But because of long association with the body we’ve accepted the body as our identity, forgotten our identity. As a matter of fact, Reality is there. Your Spontaneous Invisible Presence is Reality.
What is the importance of spirituality? Because of long association with the body we are considering ourself in body-form. What are we requiring? Everybody wants happiness, peacefulness, tension-free life, fearless life, the four things required in one’s life. We’ve accepted the body as identity and therefore we’ve forgotten our identity.
So the purpose of spirituality is just to identity oneself in a real sense. We’re identifying ourselves in body-form. As a matter of fact, you’re shapeless, there’s no birth, there’s no body at all. Prior to beingness there’s no body, after leaving the body nothing remains.
The purpose behind this is just to identify yourself in a real sense. We’re identifying ourselves in body-form which is illusion. To dissolve all these illusions spirituality is most important. What is spirituality? Just to identify oneself. We’re identifying ourself in this form, and that is illusion, as I told you. So the same simple question is ‘how were you prior to beingness? After leaving the body?’.
We have so many concepts. We’ve got literal knowledge, a lot of literal knowledge, “I am somebody else”. We are knowing ‘karma’, ‘dharma’, so many religions are there, so many concepts are there. We’ve wrapped all these concepts around us and are trying to live within the concepts. We have to dissolve all concepts. Your Spontaneous Invisible Presence is Ultimate Truth, that you are not knowing. Your Invisible Listener is Master. But because we are measuring ourself in body form, we forgot our Master.
Except your Selfless Self, nothing is there. God, Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, this is your name – not in body form. Therefore I am inviting the attention of the Invisible Listener within you that you are Ultimate Truth. But we’re not accepting this because of the impact of the body. It’s a fact, even if you think intellectually. Prior to beingness there is no body, no concept, no ‘I am’ also. The moment the Presence clicked with the body you say “I am somebody else”. You are nobody, you are everybody. Your Presence is just like space or sky – you’re everywhere. Therefore not to measure yourself in body-form, that is the most important thing. And for which the only source is meditation. I’m telling you, meditation is also illusion at the advanced stage.
The body is only the media through which you can identify yourself. Everything came out of nothing, everything dissolves into nothing. It’s a fact. Spiritual knowledge is also an illusion. Why do you want spiritual knowledge? Because you forgot your identity. Where is that spiritual knowledge prior to beingness? After leaving your body any spiritual knowledge is there? When did you come across with spirituality? The main purpose is just to identify yourself in a real sense, which leads to the Spontaneous Conviction: I was not the body, I ‘m not the body, I ‘m not going to remain the body. So the moment there is Conviction, everything will dissolve. You have to bow down to your Selfless Self. We are always depending on God to do something: “Oh God do something, oh Master do something”, why? Okay, at the initial stage it’s okay, but you are no longer a child. Child depends upon it’s parent, but you are grown up, you are spiritually grown up. I am placing before you your facts, the Invisible Listener’s fact.
There is no binding, no conditions. Nothing is required, it is free of charge. Presence is free of charge and you are neglecting that Presence. If there is the Conviction ‘except myself nothing is there’, and ‘myself’ is not an egoistic statement, ‘except Selfless Self nothing is there’, you will get exceptional spiritual intoxication. I call it spiritual intoxication. Though you are living in the world, you remain unconcerned with the world. The entire world is projected out of your Presence. To say ‘world’, your Presence is required. In a dream you see sky, space, everything, even god, etc. Although you are acting in the dream, who is watching that dream, who is taking the video-shooting of that dream? After awakening you say “Oh, I’ve seen this thing, that thing, good dream, bad dream”. How was that dream-world projected? Similarly, this world is projected out of your Presence. But Presence does not know ‘I am Presence’, just like sky does not know ‘I am sky’. We say “This is sky”. The five elements do not know ‘I am the five elements, water does not know ‘I am water. Your Presence is beyond that. But we are neglecting all this. So be with you always.
Q: At some point I have this feeling that (inaudible). The voice becomes so strong: “there’s no value in anything you’ve done”. It’s because there’s no doer, or I know sometimes I just watch myself. I just feels like what I’m doing is just a waste of time. And that feeling gets very strong, and then comes back again…
Maharaj: Until you get Conviction thoughts are appearing upon your Presence. Various thoughts are appearing upon your Presence . Good thoughts, bad thoughts, depressive thoughts are there. You are prior to that. And therefore I inviting the attention of the Invisible Presence, concentrate. You’re watching this, you’re witness all that’s happening inside. I’m talking about the Invisible Witnesser within you.
Q: Yes, I can feel that…
Maharaj: That ‘I’ is supposed to be dissolved. ‘I’ is supposed to be dissolved. To say ‘I’ your Presence is required. If there is no Presence, who will talk about the ‘I’?
Q: Again, the identity with the body comes back…
Maharaj: It’s not coming and going. Is the sky coming and going anywhere? Because, see, it’s not your fault, I’m not blaming you, it happens. It is because we are measuring ourself in body-form that this happens. And for which your involvement is most important, meditation is required. Why am I insisting on meditation? Because it is basic, it is the foundation, it is the anti-virus software. You have to implant that anti-virus software. Through which you are always hammering yourself ‘you are Brahman, you are Brahman’. You know the police station? To the criminal they say “You are a criminal, this is the evidence against you”, he says “no, I am not criminal” — “Yes, you are criminal! You see this? You’ve done this. Liar, you are liar!” Like that, “You are Brahman, you are Brahman!”, you are hammering. Then you’ll come “Yes, so that I”.