M: We say ‘I-am’ is the whole, ‘I-am’ is the world, beyond the world, this is all literal knowledge.
Q: It’s my feeling.
M: My feeling, who is feeling that, behind that my feeling, something is there to say ‘my-feeling’. To
say ‘my-feeling’ some energy is there. Without that how can you say ‘my-feeling’? Some click is
there, spontaneous click, spontaneous presence is there, out of that spontaneous presence immediately
taking ego as, ‘my-feeling’. There is no ego, there is no intellect, there is no mind, when you say
‘my-feeling’, prior to that feeling your spontaneous presence is there.
Q: Yes, I follow but not with my mind.
M: Forget about mind. So like electricity, that light, electricity is there. Therefore it is flowing,
who is the cause of the shining?, electricity. This is a light, this is a fan. ‘My light’, who says
‘my light’? Without electricity how can you say light You can say ‘my-light’, but if electricity is
not there how can you say ‘my-light’? Likewise, ‘my feeling’ ‘I-am’, to say ‘I-am’ to say ‘my
feeling’, some subtle, some invisible, spontaneous, anonymous, presence is there. Without that
presence, you can’t say ‘I’ or ‘you’. I am inviting attention of that invisible presence. Which
cannot be defined in the words.
Presence is there, but it can not be defined. Out of that presence we are talking. We are acting,
body is only media. Mind is media, intellect is media, ego is media, all these, this factory working
because of one electricity. If that electricity, power is not there, what is the use of the factory?
This is factory. Heart is working, liver is working, eyes are there, so this is inner factory. Your
eating, your digesting, these internal parts. Entire body is one factory, who is running that
I am running life with ‘my-mind’, director, so many things are there. Mind is there, intellect is
there, personality department is there. General Managers are there, so this isa factory. How is it
working? Some owner is there? Invisible owner, Spontaneous owner.
With that invisible instruction, that factory is working. What happens is that mind becomes stronger,
mind starts to give instruction to that owner mind starts to give instruction to that owner. Owner is
not knowing his identity. Master says, No, don’t take instruction, You are the one, You are the
owner who is running all this, You are paying him.
Q: Bad thoughts, bad expectations is it necassary to fight with them, what to do with bad expectations, yes like worry.
It appears upon your Presence. Body based concept that appears upon your Presence. For which you have to undergo strictly meditation number one. Then through meditation you can identify yourself. Concepts are going and coming, just like clouds are coming and going. But you are separate from that. There are so many problems, this body has so many problems there, not to take touch of problems there, problems are coming and going. Their physical problem, concepts are a sort of physical problem, inner physical problem, it is rooted through mind, ego, intellect, all the concepts inside are rooted through mind, ego, intellect. Because you depend upon, mind, ego, intellect.
That is to be dissolved, the purpose behind the meditation, that will be dissolved. Mind ego, intellect came afterwards. Good concept or bad concept is rooted through mind, ego, intellect. Mind ego, intellect, when they came, they came along with the body. The moment Presence touched with the body mind, ego, intellect came, entered. In that case you are prior to that, you are identifying mind, ego, intellect. This is my mind, thoughts are coming, thoughts are coming, when thoughts are coming, to accept or not it is going to intellect. First thing, thoughts are coming, to accept or not it goes to intellect, and to implement it is ego, threee stages.
Flowing thoughts is nature, the nature of the body, what you see, what you learn, impressions are there from childhood til today. That impression comes, appears, now you have to be firm, whatever thoughts are coming, whether to accept or not accept is up to you. Bad thoughts are coming, negative thoughts are coming, not to accept it. They are thoughts. The thoughts which are positive you can accept it, this means whatever thoughts are appearing on Presence, thoughts which are useful for you you can use it, the thoughts that are not useful you can neglect it. Suppose dishes are offered to you for you to take food, you say ‘I dont want this, I don’t want this, I don’t want this thing’ Similarly so many thoughts are crowded inside, thoughts appear upon your Presence. Which thought to be accepted and which thought not to be accepted is up to you. Their is complaint that so many negative thoughts are coming, what happens is since childhood we are under the impressions so many impressions are there. From the beginning you are a male or female, so many thoughts are there. Negative thoughts regarding destiny, prarabdha, hell, heaven, so many bad concepts, so many bad dreams are appearing. You are totally different from all these concepts, that conviction is supposed to appear. Whatever appears upon your Presence is illusion. Whatever appears upon your Invisible Presence is illusion, through which you can identify is the Reality. You are the base, but it is not a body base, beyond that. Your Presence is beyond that. You are totally different from all these concepts, therefore you must have conviction, not to go along with the body based thoughts. Not to go along with the body based thoughts.
You can identify good thoughts, bad thoughts. Which thought to be accepted which thought not to be accepted is up to you, you are master of your own. That conviction is supposed to appear spontaneously, for which spirituality is there. It is open fact, you are not body, you were not body, you are not going to remain body, it’s a fact. Thoughts are coming because Presence is there, a dead body can’t have any thoughts, after leaving body no thoughts will be there, prior to beingness any good thoughts or bad thoughts are coming, nothing. Thoughts are coming, the moment spirit clicked with the body, thoughts started from childhood til today, thoughts are appearing graduated. Small child you are having different thoughts, now you are young lady you are having different thoughts, when you grow old different thoughts. According to age factor according to circumstances, thoughts are appearing. So you are unconcerned with the thoughts. Thoughts that are trying to give you trouble, you reject it, it’s up to you. Which road you go, which not to go, it’s up to you. If you follow some road and have so many difficulties, you change your way, you bypass something or other. Similarly thoughts are flowing in nature, which thought to be accepted and which thought not to be accepted is up to you, you are a master.
But since you are measuring yourself in body form, therefore you say ‘What to do?’ Bad thoughts are coming, good thoughts are coming, something depressing, depressive thoughts are coming, directly or indirectly we are encouraging these bad thoughts, it is the nature of the spirit to accept bad things immediately. Suppose if I abuse you, you accept it, you are slapping someone. But suppose I say You are Brahman ‘Oh, ok, I am Brahman’ If I say You are Brahman you say ‘Oh, how can I be Brahman?, You are making fun of me’ But if I abuse you with very bad language ‘What Maharaj, You are insulting me.’ See words are same, meaning given is same, if I say you are donkey ‘What are you saying, you are insulting me’ If I say you are Brahman ‘How can I be Brahman’. This is the play of words, see we have created language, meaning given to donkey is say dirty animal, Brahman is some supernatural power, we have given the meaning. Suppose tomorrow Brahman is donkey and donkey is Brahman. So like that you have to convince yourself, you are master of your own, your architect of your own life, not to go through with the thoughts. You know better which is good and bad.
What happens generally we are flowing along with the bad thoughts, depressive thoughts and then say ‘What to do, this happened, this happened’. We are crying unnecessarily, shouting, weeping unnecessarily, you can judge, you can stand on your own feet. Not depend upon anything, you need not depend upon mind, ego, intellect, they came afterwards. Prior to beingness, there is no mind, no ego, no intellect. Mind ego intellect appeared upon your Presence. Presence is Ultimate truth, that you are. Which is called, Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master, that you are, that you were, that you are going to remain. For which there is no birth and death, it’s fact. You are measuring yourself in body from ‘What to do, what to do’ Your impressing yourself badly, you are insulting yourself badly, stop it. Because you know better.
‘Oh what to do? I am doing so many things. No miraculous experience is happening.’ Why do you want miraculous experience? ‘I am not getting experience like x, y, z’ No miracles are there, miracles appear upon your Presence. Your presence is a miracle, your not knowing anything about you. Your posing yourself and acting as a male or female, and experiencing so many things. In dream you see so many miracles, what happened to them after awakening? So you have to awaken, spirituality is making you awaken. What is awakening, you are not body at all. You are Brahman it’s Reality, Brahman is Reality, Ultimate Truth, Final Truth.
But again and again you are posing, you are jumping back into the ditch. Master is removing you from the ditch, but again you are jumping in the ditch. You can do it, spirituality is giving you courage, strong courage. So in the beginning you are having some certain problems, so it is necassary problems are coming, thoughts are coming, and consider it some problem is arising, so now you are going to be firm. My Master told you are not man or woman, you are not body, so I don’t accept all these thoughts. That firmness will be there, thoughts, different thoughts are coming, depressive thoughts are coming, this is a kind of cleaning process.
Something a bad thing is going on, there are so many tenants residing in this body. So many tenants in the form of very bad thoughts, while going, while vacating your room, they try to re-enter, they will abuse you, because years together they are staying in this body. When you have the knowledge, you want them to vacate the body, they will abuse you, they will give trouble to you, they will rebel against you. Mind, ego, intellect, they are dissolving, at that time they will rebel against you. So you have to say OK, let them go. This is a cleaning process, so not to accept thoughts. Which thoughts to be accepted and which thoughts not to be accepted is up to you. You follow? So you are master of your own, Brahman is not separate from you, Atman is not separate from you, Ultimate Truth is not separate from you. All the time you are measuring yourself in body form that ‘I am male or female, or something, something else.’ and with that effect you have accepted so many thoughts. Forget it. Not to go with the thoughts. They are pocketing you, they are making you a slave. Mind, ego, intellect is making you a slave.
So the main target is just to identify yourself. After knowing the reality, prior to beingness you are not having any body. After leaving body, no body will be there. This is burning wood, this is a burning wood.So you can take care, not to neglect body, but not to have so much attachment to the body. At time of leaving body ‘I am dying, what to do?’ that concept should not appear. At time of death, so called death, there is no death, there is no birth for the Spirit, Presence. But the feeling appears,’I am dying, I am born’; this concept, birth and death concepts are supposed to be dissolved. Inside what is there?
Everyday we are talking, everyday listening, through listening you have to establish the identity of the listener, Invisible Listener within you. Everyday we are trying to hammer you, except your Selfless Self nothing is there. So far Presence is there you see the world, the moment Presence seperates from the body, no world is there. Entire world is projected out of your Presence, it’s fact. Same principle. In the beginning you have to undergo the meditation, until you have got conviction. Meditation means involvement, involvement, total devotion.
If you read any books, you go to any masters, this is Ultimate truth, except your Selfless Self nothing is there. What do you know? There is nothing to know. Whatever your knowing, you have got knowledge, it is illusion. No knowledge is knowledge. What is knowledge? Knowledge means just to identify oneself in real sense. We’re identifying ourself in body form and that is illusion, very simple thing, nothing complicated.We are giving more importance to body-knowledge, what ever knowledge we have extracted through body we are depending upon that, body-knowledge.Basically you are not body prior to beingness.
Therefore your view will completely change. No attraction to the world, no irritation. No hatred. No jealousy, nothing is there. Everybody’s equal. Because we are identifying in body form there we have jealousy, hatred, greediness, ‘I want, something, something, something.’ Prior to beingness, what do you want? Nothing. After leaving body what to you want? Any money is required? After leaving body, a dead body can’t say ‘I want money’ No requirements, no needs. All needs, all requirements, came along with the body only. ‘I want this thing, I want this thing, all these, so many things’ That ‘I’ is supposed to be dissolved. Spiritual knowledge is giving you courage to accept the Reality.
It happens some problems come, everybody is having different problems. Because since childhood, so many impressions, so many illusory concepts have been engraved upon us. That will be dissolved. You’re a man, you’re a female, we are knowing ourself ‘I am a male or female, I come from this country, that country’. Ego is there intelect is there, mind is there, all are working for this body. If the Presence is not there, where is the ego? Where is the intellect, where is the mind? My mind, my ego, my intellect, nothing was there. You have to be loyal with yourself. Whatever is told, you have to accept it. We are not accepting it because we have so much body impressions. ‘I am somebody else, I am somebody else’ We are not ready to surrender our ego. We are not ready to surrender subtle ego. Subtle ego is there, ‘I am somebody else’ ‘I am Brahman’ also is ego. ‘I am God’ is ego. ‘I am Master’ is ego. No ego is there, why ego is there? Because basically body is not identity, it is like firewood. This is firewood. Because of Presence we have got some importance. If there is no Presence, people will say ‘Take away, take away.’
Therefore Siddharameshwar says “This is the dirteist body, this is the dirtiest body. Within this dirtiest body, purest things are there.” Dirtiest body, within dirtiest body, purest thing, the Presence is there. The importance of this body is because of the Presence, Invisible Presence within you. But we are measuring ourself in body from and that is illusion, because we are not ready to dissolve it. Literally we are saying “I am Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, something, something.’ Practically, ego bites you from the backside, pricks you from the backside. This should not be a problem. Very simple, be normal, be simple, be humble. Nothing to earn, nothing to lose. Nothing to earn, nothing to lose. Not to gain. No attraction of the world. No publicity, no money, no sex, nothing, nothing. Completely aloof, completely seperate, unconcerned with the world. Though you are living in the world, reacting to all people, but remain unconcerned.
Be silence. Mind, ego, intellect creates violence. Be silence. Just listen. Try to know the secret of your Presence, Try to know the secret of your Presence. When all this is over the Presence is there. Presence does not know. Name is given Brahman, Atman, Paramatman. To identify this Presence, name is given, Brahman, Atman, Paramatman, God, Master. It is yourself only. Therefore body-knowledge is supposed to be dissolved. Nama Mantra is there, meditation is there, prayers are there, Bhajans are there, all these to dissolve knowledge. Melting process is supposed to be started. That ego is supposed to be dissolved, totally.
Whatever status you are holding in this world, in society, is because of this Presence. If there is no Presence, what is the status of this body? Your neglecting even if you are multi-millionare, what is the value? If you have millions of dollars, if Presence seperates, what is the use of that millions of dollars? No value. Your not gonna take millions of dollars after leaving the body. The greed. “More, I want more, I want more’ How long are you gonna hold wealth, money? You can’t take it. Don’t underestimate you. Nothing is wrong with you. All these great saintly people have same Spirit which you are already having. Spiritual science says this is a long dream. You are Unborn. There is no death, no birth. Death and birth are related to the body only, not to you. Because you are not having any expereince of birth or death. But everybody is afraid of the death, ‘Oh what will happen?’
Why fear it, let it come. Because you are Unborn, ‘I am Unborn’, that reality is established after having Spontaneous Conviction.
‘I am Unborn’, that reality is established after having Spontaneous Conviction. You’ll not have fear of the death. Whatever happens you will remain unconcerned, untouched. If something happens, it’s ok, nothing. That is the sign of Realization, Enlightenment. Be happy, make others happy. Be peaceful, make others peaceful. There is no hard and fast rule. You can start. Siddharameshwar Maharaj says ” If your enlightened, make others enlightened, start teaching them about spirituality.” But you must have strong conviction. It is not hide and seek. Have to hide alot of spiritual knowledge, ‘oh I’ve got spiritual knowledge’ you are hiding. What your hiding? You are a free bird, you can fly without wings. You can fly without wings. No wings.
So be strong, spiritually strong. The secret of knowledge is given to you, you have to enjoy it. Knowledge is not seperate from you. Invisible Listener within you is the sign of knowledge. As long as Listener, the Presence is in you, body has got value, where there is no value. You have alot of importance, Presence is very valuable, invaluable. And for which again I am repeating, primary stage you have to undergo the meditation, then that knowledge, Reality will be opened. Because it is within you. Why meditation, by that meditation you are hammering yourself. You’ll get the knowledge, it’s open. Then your inner master is talking with you, will start talking with you. Secret of knowledge is within you.
Today’s news. Everybody’s got strong body confidence. Everybody’s having spiritual knowledge. Directly or indirectly we are having strong belief in body, and therefore spiritual knowledge is not absorbing. We say oh, ‘I can understand intellectually’, but that knowledge that is accepted intellectually is not absorbing. Because their is strong faith, strong belief, in the body, and therefore it is not entering inside.
So for which again I am repeating meditation, through meditation the body knowledge will be melted, dissolved. I am insisting meditation all the time, everybody repeating meditation, meditation, because such a strong body knowledge is there, so even if you wanted to escape or dissolve this, it is not dissolved because of strong feeling of body. So that strong faith, that power of body-knowledge is supposed to be dissolved slowly, silently and permanantly. Then you will be free from all concepts.
So many persons are coming here; ‘ok, ok, this is good knowledge, good knowledge I appreciate this knowledge’, but I am telling you, this is not only dry knowledge, try to absorb within you, it is your knowledge. If your listening and reading on the base of body-knowledge, it will not absorb. One thing is certain, some or other day, willingly or unwillingly you have to leave the body, it’s a fact. You can’t escape from this incident. I am not asking you to neglect your body. You must believe, prepare yourself, ‘Yes body is not my identity at all’ We are knowing everything but we are not preparing, at time of leaving the body getting some suffocation or something, a pitiable condition, that should not happen. At that time there should be strong courage, ‘Yes, I am not leaving body, I am not body at all, let the body go’.
Nisargadatta Maharaj used to say “When the body is going just think of passing stool.” You know passing, when your passing stool your not thinking, you just let it go. Suppose your passing stool, at that time you are having any grievances? Your refreshed. So he said like that just like your passing stool. Body is gone away forget it, ‘I am not dead’. So what he wants to say, at the time there should not be any grief or sadness inside. If any ambitions remain, subtle ambitions then another dream may be there. This is an opportunity, always requesting everybody, only listening is not sufficient, changing Master’s is not sufficient. Why are you wanting to change your Master, here and there? People say ‘Oh, I have to go to that Master, this Master, that one’. You are wasting your time, wasting your energy.
Because your not faithful with you. Be faithful with you. Be faithful with you and be faithful with your Master. That is the purpose behind spirituality, so you will always remain concerned with the spiritual knowledge, always remain in touch with the spiritual knowledge. You remember all these things, suppose you go anywhere, you may be there, suppose some doubts come, or some confusion or depression is there, unpleasant atmosphere, you remember when you were at Nashik Ashram, you remember all these things, and that concept will be dissolved.
But people are so much attached with the concepts, I’ve told about torturing, one person says ‘No I caused some bad something’, he’s not leaving his imaginations, not leaving concepts. ‘You say don’t worry, but how can I not worry?’ So you have to believe in your Master, Master says ‘Nothing is my property’ but he says ‘No something happened, I have done something wrong in my previous life, that life, that life’. After coming to me, after coming to any Master, if your not leaving your concepts, what is the use of that spirituality? Master says you have not commited anything wrong, you have not committed any sin, but if you say ‘No, No, I did sin.’, what to do? How can Master help you? My Master says I have not done any sin, I’m not doer, there is no deed, if your not accepting that, your own mind, own concepts will be torturing you, nobody is torturing you, nobody is torturing you, your own concepts are torturing you all the time.
You have done something wrong you are a sinner or something, try to mold into the light of this spiritual knowledge, therefore strong belief in yourself and your Master is required, it’s a closed situation, Master says nothing has happened, you are Ultimate Truth, but your not accepting it. Habbit of the beggars, you have a lot of money even though you are begging on the street, like that. That should not be there. So therefore all these great Master’s, they strongly believe in their own Masters. ‘My Master is final’, if God appears before you, ‘No, my Master is Final’ That reality is supposed to be absorbed. That is the principal of spirituality.
Visiting so many places, visiting so many sacred places, something places, what to do? Where are the sacred places prior to beingness? Talking about gods and godesses, and all the certain stories, and according to their stories your trying to go here and there. Waste of time. This is last destiny, last destination, beyond that nothing is there.
Why is knowledge required? So far body, therefore knowledge is required. Why body is required, why Master is required? If body is not there, why Master is required? Master is trying to identify yourself. You forgot your reality. Why Master is required, because you forgot your reality, forgot your identity. You are posing all the time as a man or women, a being. So beingness is supposed to be dissolved. How are you prior to beingness, after leaving the body? That is your identity. In spite of that, people are not following. Listening, reading, black magic, white magic, this magic, nothing is there. If somebody falls sick ‘Oh, some black magic is there, black power may be there’ where is the black power and white power? There’s no black power, white power. So far as you are measuring yourself in body form, therefore your considering the the black power or white power. No white power, black power nothing is there. But that belief so much sticked with him, he was not leaving that, and for which meditation is required. Meditation is slowly, silently, melting all concepts. You will remain always in touch. Bhausaheb Maharaj was very, had very strong foresight. All the prayers, morning prayers, early morning prayers, morning prayers, evening prayers, because the intention you always keep in touch with you 24 hours.
After leaving the premises, some thoughts may come. So you are to recite the Mantra all the time. Do your duties, do your job, while your doing your duties, job, recite Mantra, so it is always hammering you. What to do? What Master can help you? You have to act it. Master has placed before you delicious dishes, you have to eat it, not define it. So be with you. Only listening is not sufficient, have some courage, have some confidence, develop your confidence, develop you will power, spiritual will power. Like I said there won’t be temptation to go anywhere. God, Master, is not seperate from you. So far as your measuring yourself in body form your unable to identify yourself in a real sense. So be strong, OK.